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Sail & Rigging - Genoa 150% or 130% ? |
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Genoa 150% or 130% ? |
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Mon Cher Philippe,
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We have a 41, also a tall rig. Our genny is a 145 that we decided worked best for us for the phrf credit for Beer Can racing. If we didn't race so much in evening (often light conditions), I would definitely go about 130 or even a 125 for day sailing and cruising. |
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Philippe, we owned a short rig 41 for 14 years and like Matteo we fitted a 135% genoa on the furler. We had a shorter rig than you have, but for fast cruising the sail size was perfect. I did a few races, and for that, we removed the Harken split drum and taped the top swivel to the bottom of the foil, and installed a full hoist 150% genoa but in many conditions when racing I thought that my 135% might be faster. Gavin |
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Many thanks to those who replied.
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The German technical sailing magazine Palstek has a long article in its 3-14 edition about the topic of modern sails on older yachts. The first illustrative photo they show is of a Swan 43. The conclusion of the author is that the combination of a Genua 3, along with a Code Zero for light winds (1-12kn), is the ideal upwind combination for cruising purposes, also for older yachts. We are sailing with kids and try to avoid winds above 20kn for now, especially when going upwind. But once in a while we find ourselves in stronger wind, which is then inefficient with the Genoa 1. We have further options in the garage: a cutter stay along with a number 4 jib, and a Genoa 3 that was used for racing (not using the furler). As the kids grow and we get more courageous, we will also optimize our wardrobe for stronger winds. Our Genoa 1 is fairly new - we bought it shortly after we bought the boat. With a bit more experience now, I would also go for a smaller Genoa. Christian 411/028 |
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Dear Matteo and Christian
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Hi Lars - happy to help. I just ordered the test. Looks like I had an editing accident with my message above. Christian |
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My experience is limited to cruising in my 411. The 135% gives sufficient drive in lighter winds, and has sufficient weight / strength to allow upto apparent wind 20knts without roller reefing. Above 20 knots upwind I reef the main before the genoa. I will often sail with just the genoa on short single handed trips. Running downwind I often drop the main and sail with genoa only.
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Thanks a lot John.
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A little feed back on our decision: we finally bought a 56 square meter geneoa, slightly larger than a nb 3 per the original sailplan, fabric is Hydranet 350gr, starcut.
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Have owned a 411 for 16 years and sailed the last 15 with a 135% furling genoa. Tri radial cut with foam luff. PERFECT Solution.
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We have a 411. Our sailmaker and I agreed to a 115% genoa for a working sail. We have a light weight "drifter" that's about a 135% genoa. It's a great upwind combination for the Puget Sound region of the US.
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After 16 seasons 135% definitely
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