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S&S Swan Maintenance - Steering chain for Swan 55
25 February 2019 - 17:08
#1
Join Date: 25 February 2019
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Steering chain for Swan 55

We need to replace the steering chain on our 55' Kira hull 009 and are having problems trying to get a new one the same pitch etc.

Any suggestion please?

Thanks Tim

 

25 February 2019 - 19:47
#2
Join Date: 29 January 2007
Posts: 1015

Dear Tim,

what happened? First time I hear the Nautor's Swan chain needs to be replaced!

Anyway you can order this spare from SpareParts at Nautor.

Fair winds!

matteo (47/069 Vanessa)

26 February 2019 - 08:21
#3
Join Date: 25 February 2019
Posts: 3

On our way back from the Swans in Porto Cervo it just simply broke one of the links leaving us with the emergancy rudder and a get us back to home port fix, I guess after 47 years I think we should have a new one.

I have sent an email to Nautor, many thanks.

Tim

26 February 2019 - 18:49
#4
Join Date: 02 January 2008
Posts: 1547

Dear Tim

Would like to ask if it was the last chain link which broke? If this was the case, the recommendation to all owners would be to check their last links, there is usually a visible crack before failure.
If the last link breaks, a temporary repair can be made by removing the broken link, re-attaching the cable, and extending the steering cable adjustment screw(s) correspondingly.
Kind regards
Lars

26 February 2019 - 18:59
#5
Join Date: 29 January 2007
Posts: 1015

Dear Lars,

thanks, you just anticipated the question I was about to ask!

:-)

Looking forward to receiving Tim's reply and in case it is the last link I will send a newsletter to Owners with the recommendation.

When I overhauled 38/067 Only You steering system and rudder (I was very young and without any experience) I asked Nautor to sell me a new chain. They asked me if that was broken and I replied I just wanted to change it because I was renewing all the system. They said they did not want  (!) to sell me the chain as this piece has been designed/built to be eternal.

Of course it was not!

Fair winds!

matteo (47/069 Vanessa)

28 February 2019 - 11:52
#6
Join Date: 25 February 2019
Posts: 3

Dear All

 

This was a side link that just sheard off, the posistion was around the middle of the chain, no logic at all as to the reason, we guessed at old age...

Nautor are saying the original was a Wippermann 513 RF but this does not corresponsed to the actual chain that broke which is a heavier guage we are still trying to find this one which maybe a Wipperman 60 RF.

 

broken link

16 January 2022 - 11:12
#7
Join Date: 15 January 2022
Posts: 3

Dear Tim

Did you find a replacement chain for the steering system? If so, what chain was it and where did you get it?

We are looking into getting a spare chain for our Swan 55 Galiana in preparation for the Ocean Globe Race.

28 January 2022 - 15:08
#8
Join Date: 15 January 2022
Posts: 3

Hi, all!

While refitting our Swan 55' yawl, Galiana, I measured our steering chains (rudder and trim). 
Our chains match exactly with Wippermann bush chain no. 203. Which means it is a buch chain and not a roller chain. There are no roller chains that match with these dimensions as far as I know. 

Dimensions: pitch = 20.0 mm, b1 = 16.0 mm, b2 = 22.5 mm, d1 = 12.0 mm, s = 3.0 mm (inner plate, outer plate is about 2 mm)

05 December 2022 - 15:45
#9
Join Date: 15 January 2022
Posts: 3

Hi, all!

While refitting our Swan 55' yawl, Galiana, I measured our steering chains (rudder and trim). 
Our chains match exactly with Wippermann bush chain no. 203. Which means it is a buch chain and not a roller chain. There are no roller chains that match with these dimensions as far as I know. 

Dimensions: pitch = 20.0 mm, b1 = 16.0 mm, b2 = 22.5 mm, d1 = 12.0 mm, s = 3.0 mm (inner plate, outer plate is about 2 mm)

Hi, all

It turns out that Wippermann bush chain n.203 was not the correct chain... The original chain has a thinner outer link and shallower pins. This means that the Wippermann 203 is too wide on the outside and does not fit into place, because it touches the flange/base for the friction material.

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